Did a full electric check as battery light came on after i hit a puddle lastnight but was a fooking big pothole aswell:doh: conclusion is the alternator is buggered so van now off road cheapest and quickest time to get a new one is 2 weeks ho hum :/ at least all the engine electrics are cleaned and sorted and now know why a garage wanted to charge ?300 plus parts to do it :target::flame: